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Mar. 13th, 2006 @ 11:39 pm I've moved!
Well, after pondering earlier today about moving over to blogger and bemoaning to my husband the difficulty of transferring my old posts over, my kind husband transferred them for me.

So, this is my last post on livejournal. Please update your links and come and visit me at http://lovehonorandobey.blogspot.com

My goal is a minimum of one real post a week, hopefully two. Tomorrow check back to find a post about the birth of our newest daughter.

Thanks loyal readers!
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Mar. 13th, 2006 @ 11:44 am I am rich
There has been a drought around here of posts. I started out strong, adding new posts every week. But after the first few months things really tapered off. It is my intention to change that. I think I may even move all this over to a blogger site and once and for all have a real blog. We'll see.

The main factor in my lack of posting has been being pregnant. Which is what this post is mostly about. I love being pregnant. I love knowing that there is a little person inside of me growing. This individual, distinct person that I have the privledge of being mother too. And what I really love is how easy it is to tell almost from the beginning that they have there own personality and traits. The pro-life movement talks a lot about when the heart beat starts, and when they have finger prints, and how early they are fully formed-but it is far more than just anatomy being formed in there. I knew with my first that she was going to be high energy, high maintance, and strong willed. She used to move around so fast in there that you would swear she had eight legs. She used to kick me if I was in a position she didn't like and wouldn't stop until I moved. For those of you who know her, you can attest that she is still rather like that. Where as my new little one I knew was much more mellow. I always felt regular movement, in fact started to feel her move at 13 wks, but it was slower, more deliberate. Simply-she wasn't as spastic as her older sister. And even in this first month it has proved to be her nature. She is laid back, likes to cuddle, let's the big sister poke her without any fuss.

All of this really amazes me. My children are unique creations of God. They are His and have been given traits by Him. Yes, they are here for me to raise and to help mold into Godly women, but it was The Potter who molded them first. And really it is Him who will continue to do so, I just get to participate.

My husband tells me that I grow good babies, and I hope that those things which are under my control I do well. But I didn't give them these personalites, these gifts. Like all good gifts, they have come down from the Father of Lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.

I nevewr thought that at 23 I would be married (almost 5 years now) and with two children. I would have it no other way though. It is good that we aren't given a magic wand to determine the course of our futures, and it is good that all prayers are not answer with a yes. Many are the plans of a man’s heart, but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails. Praise be to God that it does.

And Praise be to God for babies and motherhood. It truly is amazing.

“Here is a little mouth to kiss; here are two more feet to make music with their pattering about my nursery. Here is a soul to train for God, and the body in which it dwells is worth all it will cost, since it is abode of a kingly tenant. I may see less of friends, but I have gained one dearer than them all. Yes, my precious baby, you are welcome to your mothers heart, welcome to her time, her strength, her health, to her most tender cares, to her life-long prayers! Oh how rich I am, how truly, how wondrously blest!”
~ Elizabeth Prentiss’ Stepping Heavenward
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Feb. 24th, 2006 @ 09:16 pm Since it has been far too long since I posted.....
Well, I have things of far greater import to post on than this, but since I dont' ahve the time right now, I shall simply answer the tag of My Husband and do the survey that has been floating around for awhile.

Four Answers -
The idea is to answer the various questions; tag 4 new people; and add a question of your own.

Four jobs I've had:
1. WSU pre-game food service
2. Waitress
3. Nanny
4. English and History Teacher

Four movies I could watch over and over:
1. Slinding Doors
2. Playing By Heart
3. Ever After
4. Scarlet Pimpernell (Jane Seymour version)

Four books I could read over and over:
1. Chronicles of Narnia
2. Comte de Monte Cristo (the full 1500 pg. version, translated by Little Brown and Co.)
3. Space Trilogy
4. Lord of the Ring

Four places I've lived:
1. Lewiston, ID
2. Moscow, ID
3. Spokane, WA
4. Houston, TX

Four TV shows I watch:
1. Glimore Girls
2. Grey's Anatomy
3. Injustice
4. CSI: Crime Scene Investigation

Four places I've been on vacation:
1. Puerto Vallarta
2. Carribean Cruise
3. McCall, ID (Zimms Hotsprings)
4. Portand, OR

Four websites I visit daily:
1. http://www.bloglines.com
2. http://choosinghome.com/phpbb2/index.php
3. http://www.gmail.com
4. http://www.yahoo.com

Four favorite foods:
1. whipped potatoes and gravy
2. Caesar Salad
3. good chocolate
4. Big Haus Mexican

Four places I'd like to be right now:
1. having dinner at the Big Haus
2. having dinner with the Atwoods
3. listening to Eric E. play at the Nuart in Moscow with a good cup of coffee, My Husband, and a chess set
4. on a beach somewhere with a margarita, looking good in a bikini, with my husband

Four favorite articles of clothing:
1. My going away dress from my wedding
2. well worn jeans
3. swishy knee length skirts
4. 4" high heals

Four of my philosophic bases of life:
1. Touchstones
2. the exsistance of Absolute Truth
I'll have to ponder the other two.....not sure right now


Four people from history you'd like to have over for dinner and an evening of conversation:
1. CS Lewis
2. Mary
3. Shakespeare
4. Luther and wife

Four things most formative to the nature of your personality and pursuits and mental constructs:
1. The Bible
2. The Chronicles of Narnia
3. My Husband
4. AP English: especially the study of the Puritans, Transandentalism, and the Romantics

My Question:
Four Events that changed to some extent who you are:
1. Becoming a Christian
2. Getting Married
3. The sermon given March 10, 2002 by Evan Wilson- "True Righteousness"
4. Giving Birth, both C-section and natural just in different ways

Four people I am tagging:
The Last four people on the web who still haven't done this....ok,maybe just haven't done this in the past 6 mo.? If you don't have a blog feel free to leave it in my comments (that means you Dru. :) ) Comment if you do this.
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Jan. 25th, 2006 @ 09:18 am Everyone want to solve world hunger- no one wants to help mom do the dishes
That is the title of the most recent post over at Effable , a blog written by a good friend of ours. This post is extreamly good and should be read. As are the majority of his posts actually. Read this one and you'll be hooked.

Sorry for the lack of activity here as of late. I am only about 3 weeks from D-Day and in full nesting mode. Hope to get up a post or two before the new little one gets here.
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Jan. 5th, 2006 @ 02:02 pm Belief
Belief is not merely the suspension of disbelief.
Furthermore, beliefs have consequences.
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Dec. 13th, 2005 @ 01:02 pm Random Musings on Modesty
Warning: this is going to be disconnected at best, and uterely impossible to follow at worst. Mainly due to the fact that at this point I have ideas, not a basic hypothesis and especially not any working theory but sometimes putting ones ideas down helps to clarify the thinking process. Besides, if I don't write some of these notions down, I'm going to forget. Oh, it is also long. and I didn't have time to edit. You've been warned.

So, both at our church women's Bible study this month as well as at the choosing home forums the topic of modesty has come up. Each group with very different input on the matter. This has led me to ponder further my thoughts. Let me share some of them.

First, a godly woman should dress and act in such a way that is chaste and modest. Alright, but what are the working definitions of these words? We don't have in the bible the books of First and Second Hem Lengths, so obviously it is more than a matter of conforming to a set of exact rules. No great surprise there. Christianity isn't about a set of rules which you follow which then brings about righteousness. It is Christ who makes us righteous and it is a matter of the heart, not how many good rules we can come up with. However, we tend to think that the shortest distance between unrighteousnes and righteousness is a good law and thus we get many of the problems we deal with in discussing modesty of dress.

Second thought- it has been put forth by many that we should dress so as to not make others stumble. Certainly. I'm on board with this 100%. I dont' fully understand the temptation of the eyes that most guys deal with, but I'm not completely seperated from the concept either and I want to honor them and encourage them to righteousness. But where is the line here? I once saw an episode of "My Wife and Kids" (I don't recommend that show btw) where the daughters boyfriend was struggling because of how she was dressing. So a lot of the show plays around her dressing more and more conservitely and him still struggling and ultimately her ending up in a burque and him still being tempted because "he could still see her eyes" then on went the dark glasses but "he could still smell her shampoo". Now, this was over done, but does raise an issue worth considering. At what point does it cease to be the concern of the girl? At what point has she taken the necessary steps to encrouage those brothers around her and the rest is a heart issue that is up to them? I'm not as naive as I was in high school and college where I thought it all should be up to them (although, in some ways I probably dressed more convering then than now, but that is a different point) but I do know that those who want to look are going to look and further more, different guys stuggle with different things. In talking to some of the ladies on the choosing home forum I've heard about their husbands and male relatives who really struggle with pants (even what most of us would consider modest ones) on women because of how much of the form that is shown. Where as other guys it is going to be a tight shirt that is a stumbling block. But there again, waht is tight? Do all impression of breasts, waist, and hips need to be gone before it is modest? Do we need to toss a shirt on the off chance that if we turn a certain way and someone is positioned just right, they could see down it? At what point does it get ridiculous?

Third thought- dressing for the occaision. Other aspects of modest dress is where are you going and what are you doing? If you're headed to the beach to play volley ball, wearing a little swim suit that you're going to pop out of or are going to need to be tugging on all day is a bad idea if you're trying to be modest and not cause anyone to stuggle. But does that make a swim suit always a bad idea? What if you're going to swim laps in a private pool? Or leisurely lay on a beach to get some sun? What standard is applied to swim wear then? Also, for church, what is best? Does it depend on what church you're going to? If your goal isn't to stand out, if you're at a church that doesn't dress up at all then you shouldn't either. But maybe it is more about not standing out? I tend to think it is. That dressing for the occaison is a good starting point, but can't be the only determining factor. Afterall, if there is something which is truly better about a dress for a girl (and I'm not saying that there is) then we should wear that whether it makes us stand out or not. The idea the modesty isn't about standing out from the crowd or drawing attention to ourselves simply doesn't hold up under scrutinity. After all, with the cultural trend of less and less fabric covering our bodies a woman whose shorts do more than simply cover her butt and whose shirt actually goes all the way to the top of her pants is going to stand because there is something truly different. So, the concern about being distracting and not drawing attention to yourself is all well and good, but like dressing for the occaison, it only takes us so far as to what we are to do.

Next thought- the different in consideration of dress for the single woman vs. the married woman. If you are single your dress should be determined first by godly standards, then familial rules, and finally personal preference. If you're married then it should be determined first by godly standards, husbands preferences, and then your own. In other words, if you're single and you know your father is going to hate the dress- don't buy it. And if you're married and know your husband prefers blue to pink, get the sweater in blue. It isn't rocket science. But lets add a different dimension to dressing when married. Wives should dress godly, and in such a way to please their husbands, and this most often means making sure we look nice. This may or may not draw attention to ourselves. We may or may not receive compliments from other people. Neither of those things really matters I don't think. Rather, you are looking nice in order to please your husband. Heck, this might even be what one might call sexy. (no rotten tomatoes please) For example, my husband loves really high heeled shoes. There is no getting around that 4" heals have a certain sexy quality about them to the majority of the male population. I don't think though that should preclude me from wearing them to please my husband when we go out. However, most husbands also like lingerie and I think we can all agree that lingerie is not apropriate attire outside of the bedroom. I don't know that I can point by point explain the difference, but sometimes it is just idiotic to explain something that basic.

Final thing- is there some different category of dress for a formal worship gather that makes something which is modest on Friday, not modest on Sunday? Of course, this leads to the question, is there something particular about a formal worship gather vs. an informal one of just two or three? We as Christians are the body of Christ. Our bodies are the temple of the God. We are in His presence and no longer have to go into the holy of holies to meet Him. So does this make Sunday morning no big deal? Or something which is more casual? Or should the rest of our lives be less casual? If we believe that we are always in the presence of God then is our blase (sp?) attitude about dress, apperance, entertainment, etc. truly acceptable? These aren't all questions I feel like dealing with right now, but I think do tie in directly to how modest dress comes into play in the coorperate gathering.

So, I guess in summary- I think modesty of dress is extreamly important. I think that caring for the righteousness of your brothers and not tempting them is extreamly important. I don't think that we can prevent others from sin, but rather can only be of encouragement, at some point it becomes their heart issue-I just don't know which point. I don't think attempting to look nice is a bad thing-in fact generally I think it should be sought after. I don't think that if you draw attention to yourself that you're not being modest, quite possibly the opposite even. I think occaison and location should come into play in how you choose to dress, but that they aren't the end all of determinators. I tend to lean towards there being a better way or preferred style of dress but I don't have a hard and fast theory on that, it is just a leaning. I agree with my friend Shannon (www.kaleoshannon.com) that conservative does not equal modest. Christian freedom is a good and wonderful thing. There may be nothing wrong with dressing like a punk rocker, goth, or even a dominatrix (ok, maybe not that last one...) but just because something is ok doesn't mean that it is the best option or that we should be content with simply not actively sinning.

Finally, I sometimes just wish I was amish or mennonite or that Christianity had it's own burque. But then I am reminded that what I desire is true righteousness, not a good law. So no hem length guidelines here, just ponderings on the best way to be godly through modest dress. All input is welcome. A follow up post is likely to follow in a few weeks.
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Dec. 13th, 2005 @ 11:06 am I can hear the crickets.....
Well, it has been a ridiculously long time since I have posted anything. Most of you have probably given up and stopped checking back by now. For those of you who are still here and reading this post, my many thanks. In the interim since my last post I toyed with the idea of setting up a blog on blogger and then realized I didn't have the time. And I think I have composed upwards of 10 posts in my head but now can only remember 2 of the topic. They will be posted on soon and hopefully the rest will come back to me.

The reason for my absence is simply that I have been occupied with living out the things that I have previously posted on. It doesn't work to write on the joy of children and serving them and making a home and loving your husband and then ignore said husband and children to write more posts. A decided disconnect there. But I have a bit of time today and would like to share with y'all some of the sites that I have had a chance to read as of late that have been of great encouragement. To the male readership, you probably won't care one way or another for these sites, it is mostly a girl thing. My apologies.

www.humblemusings.com
This is "Amy's Humble Musings" A mother of 5 with much wisdom as well as writing talent

www.spunkyhomeschool.com
A wondering blog from a homeschooling mom. I'm not to that point yet, but the things she puts forward to consider about homeschooling is fantastic and I would encourage all people who have children or want children to consider the many options of school before simply opting for the public one down the street.

www.choosinghome.com
This is a site with numerous articles all about being a keeper of the home. There is a blog attached to it that has done nothing but encourage me and challenge me. There is also a forum that I really love. (I might spend too much time there actually.....I think I'll go back and read this post and maybe stop that)

Ok, I was going to write up a few more blurbs on some great reading material but I need to get back to other things now. Stay tuned in the next couple of days for a new post. I'm sure you are all waiting with baited breath.
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Sep. 20th, 2005 @ 10:35 am And Babies Don't Keep....


There is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under heaven:
a time to be born and a time to die,
a time to plant and a time to uproot,
a time to kill and a time to heal,
a time to tear down and a time to build,
a time to weep and a time to laugh,
a time to mourn and a time to dance,
a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them,
a time to embrace and a time to refrain,
a time to search and a time to give up,
a time to keep and a time to throw away,
a time to tear and a time to mend,
a time to be silent and a time to speak,
a time to love and a time to hate,
a time for war and a time for peace.



This seems to be a recurring theme as of late as I talk to friends and read blogs. The idea being that we are in some certain season of our life and that we should take joy and cherish that season. Spunky at Spunkyhomeschool Blog posted on the subject of season in her childrens life today. It was a fantastic reminder to go through the season which we are in with joy and gusto, embracing the new season to come while cherishing every moment of the one we are currently in.

And that is where I have trouble.

My baby girl is growing up. She didn't get my permission.

I know that I am going to sound like the stereotypical sappy mom when I say it seems like just yesterday we brought her home from the hospital and she was so tinny and so sleepy and just wanted to cuddle all day. And then one day I woke up and she was eating solid foods, getting teeth, walking, starting to talk....you get the idea. I don't want her to be big yet. It's not that I don't want her to grow up ever, I just didn't want it to happen so fast. The really depressing thing about this though is how much of this first year I spent not truly cherishing these moments. Overall I think I did a good job of enjoying those early days and stopping to laugh with her and to just enjoying her emerging personality. But now that this first season is almost over I realize all the times I could have slowed down more; all the times a TV show didn't need to be watched, a book didn't need to be read, a blog post didn't need to be written.

This is the way it is with most seasons of our life though I think. When we're single, we can't wait to get married and then those last days of singleness are upon us and we realize all the stuff we didn't do but could've. Then we are married but have no children, and we can't wait for the kids to be here, but those last fews months we soak up every moment of one on one time we can get. The same goes with high school and then college, college and then a job...you get the idea. We are always in one season of our life that is only going to last for what will seem like a blink of an eye and the next season will always be there before. And we must live in the tension of that. Enjoying the season we are in, loving it, soaking it up, not wishing it away but at the same time when it passes accept that passing and embrace the next season with joy and thanksgiving.

So, my baby girl is napping and the baby days are almost over. The napping ones probably are too for that matter. So I am going to go and cherish my hour of time to get things done with no one else up and about- not wishing for her to wake up to play, not dreading that she'll wake up before I get the laundry folded- but just knowing that to everything there is season. My mother in law gave me a beautiful cross stitch for the nursery when I was pregnant that had been given to her when she was pregnant with my husband. I'll end with it's words of wisdom:


Cleaning and dusting can wait till tomorrow
For babies grow up we've learned to our sorrow
So quiet down cobwebs and dust go to sleep
I'm rocking my baby and babies don't keep.
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Sep. 16th, 2005 @ 10:27 am Adorned With Divine Approval
A great quote on why I do what I do. Found it on Amy's Humble Musings Many Thanks. Go check out her site, great stuff.


"Our natural reason looks at marriage and turns up its nose and says, “Alas! Must I rock the baby? Wash its diapers? Make its bed? Smell its stench? Stay at nights with it? Take care of it when it cries? Heal its rashes and sores? And on top of that care for my spouse, provide labor at my trade, take care of this and take care of that? Do this and do that? And endure this and endure that? Why should I make such a prisoner of myself?”

What then does Christian faith say to this? It opens its eyes, looks upon all these insignificant, distasteful and despised duties in the spirit, and is aware that they are all adorned with divine approval as with the costliest gold and jewels.

It says, “O God, I confess I am not worthy to rock that little babe or wash its diapers, or to be entrusted with the care of a child and its mother. How is it that I without any merit have come to this distinction of being certain that I am serving thy creature and thy most precious will? Oh, how gladly will I do so. Though the duty should be even more insignificant and despised, neither frost nor heat, neither drudgery nor labor will distress me for I am certain that it is thus pleasing in thy sight." ~Martin Luther from "Concerning Married Life" (1522)



Oh God, keep this always in the forefront of my mind and heart. Thank you for using me in your plans and giving me gifts of which I am so unworthy. My God, How Great Thou Art.
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Sep. 13th, 2005 @ 10:30 am Oh...so it wasn't the music
Once upon a time I went to a little Lutheran Church (ELCA)in a small farm town. It was a safe, sleepy little town and the church was much the same. There were many families who went whose great-grandparents were some of the first families in the area and had helped to build the church. There was much tradition and great loyalty. I really liked going to church there for the most part. It was within walking distance from my house, which was good considering my parents didn't go to church. The choir director was my piano teachers, about 80% of the teachers from my school went there, I was good friends with the pastor and his family-it short it felt homey. What I didn't like was the music. Organ and piano with hymns sung out of the Luthran Book of Worship. Songs that I came to fondly refer to as BLH's-boring lutheran hymns. They all felt so dead and lifeless and most of the time it felt like we were singing funeral durges instead of praises to our God.

Then the non-denominational church and the praise band came into my life. Wow, it was like night and day between the two music styles. It finally felt like the music was really praising God, like the congregation was alive and wanted to worship joyfully. For many years I went to non-denominational churches and was generally a part of the worship team (or whatever it was called in that particular church). I really loved the modern worship music. I thought that the style of the music was what made it feel alive and like the congregation was truly worshiping. I really believed that back in my old lutheran church the hymns were the problem and if they just had better music it would be fixed.

One sunday we visited a new church. Although this church wasn't as heavily liturgical as the lutheran one, it was still much more traditional than any I had been to recently. And, they sang hymns. Going in I thought that it would be great to visit this one Sunday and then the next week I would be back to singing "Shout to the Lord" in the band. Boy was I wrong. It was all different than before-the hymns were joyful praises to God sung by a congregation who truly loved Him. It was all the same songs from my first church, but they all sounded so different. That's when it hit me....so it wasn't the music afterall. Praising God joyfully in song has nothing to do with the style of the music used, but the hearts of the worshipers. Worshipping in spirit and in truth doesn't require a set of drums or an organ for that matter. It requires a heart that is right with God.
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Sep. 7th, 2005 @ 01:12 pm Contest
Ok, I'm having a contest to replace the subtitle of my journal. Truth is, I really hate it, I just couldn't come up with anything else.

I am looking for something that fits in with the title and the general theme of my entries, preferably something shorter and not cliche. This isn't what you would call a "real" contest because I offer no prize except the pride of seeing your sugestion at the top of my journal every time you read it.

So to all the people who hate this whole "desperate housewife" things popping up EVERYWHERE, put your thinking caps on and help me come up with something better.
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Sep. 7th, 2005 @ 10:42 am The Search for the Titus 2 Woman
"Older women likewise are to be reverent in behavior, not slanderers or slaves to much wine. They are to teach what is good, and so train the young women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled, pure, working at home, kind, and submissive to their own husbands, that the word of God may not be reviled" Titus 2:3-5

There is much talk in the church these days of the "Titus 2 Woman". It seems that it all used to be about the Prov. 31 woman, but apparently we've moved on. Now quite obviously Titus 2 is a passage that should be studied carefully and lived out. And it seems to me that all the talk about Titus 2 stems from a true need that is in the church. Unfortunately there aren't many woman who are living this model out and the church truly feels their absence.

The response seems to be to write books instructing woman on how to become a titus 2 woman, generally written by someone who claims to be such a woman. Or there are blogs dedicated to this pursuit, and in fact a whole parachurch ministry by the same name. All the woman writing and working in these ministries have a great desire to see the next generation of Christian women to rise up to love their husbands, love their children, to be self-controlled, pure, keepers of their homes, and submissive to their husbands so that the church would be blessed and the Word would go forward. It is a noble and good thing to desire. These books, websites, and organizations have a lot of good information and solid Biblical study to offer and most any woman would benefit from reading them.

However, I don't think any of that is actually obeying Titus 2.

Titus is an address to a church body, it is instructions on the relations within that body. Paul is addressing older women to teach the younger women in their church to be these things. And it seems implied in the verse a certain responsibility on the part of the younger women as well to learn from these older women. There is an actual relationship involved. You are teaching someone or learning from someone because you are in fellowship with them, because you are doing life with them. A younger woman sees what it looks like to submit to her husband and so learns to do that. It isn't simply book knowledge, it is the joyful truth being lived out right in front of her.

Let me reiterate that I think there is great value in books teaching these values and that they should be read. But they shouldn't be a substitute for finding the real Titus 2 woman in your church and learning from them. This is part of what Christian fellowship is about- face to face, daily interaction and sharing of life. That is true fellowship-not commenting regularly on a Titus 2 blog.

Now, the natural response I hear a lot on blogs especially is a lamenting of "there just aren't any Titus 2 women in my church. I'm hurting from the lack of teaching from an older woman, I went through a hard time in my marriage because there weren't any older women to instruct me." While all of that may be true, it misses the aspect of personal responsibility that is a part of our Christian life. If there aren't any Titus 2 women in your church that very well may be your fault. It may be you who is suppose to be the older woman. Odds are, you are older and further along in life than someone in your church and could be a benefit to them. And even if you are one of the youngest women in your church, think of the encouragement it would be to the women who are older than you to model these things if they see someone they think of as young doing it. Young women put the older ones on the spot. Ask them how they do these things.

I think it is uncomfortable for most of us to either admonish someone in an area they are lacking or to accept teaching. And most often we are in a position where we are asked to do both, which makes it even more uncomfortable. It is hard to go to someone and say, "your speech isn't honoring to your husband and that isn't ok, we should talk". It is hard to go to someone and say, "I don't know how to show love to my children in the way that I ought, can you show me?". But all of this isn't suppose to be comfortable or easy. This is Christianity. So go be a Titus 2 woman and go find a Titus 2 woman so that the word of God may not be reviled.
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Aug. 24th, 2005 @ 12:17 pm Abortion
Normally before I post I think about the wording I am going to use, scripture I am going to reference, a title, the various objections that could be raised, etc. I write thinking about litery deviced and try to edit carefully. Right now I am doing none of that. I can barely see through my tears to type.

I just read this article here http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050824/ap_on_he_me/fetal_pain

It almost made me throw up. Maybe it's because I am pregnant, but my heat is breaking. Basic summary of the article is that this new team of researchers say that babies can't feel pain until they are at least seven months gestationally. Up until this point the research has suggested 20 months but no real consensus has ever been reached.

But what got to me wasn't the constitent use of "fetus" or the obviously biased headline or that obvious bias of the writer....it was the abortions after 20 weeks the baby is given anestestia. Let that sink in for a moment. It is necessary to give this little baby pain killer because of what is about to happen to it. It is going to experience a painful death. These doctors are administering something that is normally given to a patient to make everything easier for them and then they kill the baby. Babies at 20 wks can often survive outside the womb. These are little ones that could make it. Babies that could be adopted by parents that desperately want kids. But they're killed.

I have to stop writing. I'm shaking and my heart rate it up and I need to go lay now. This is wrong, this is so very wrong.
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Aug. 10th, 2005 @ 10:08 am The Christian Blogosphere
Before coming to our new town I had never read a blog. Ever. I knew someone who one time said to me "yeah, so I have a blog now" and I had to ask her what it was. But since that time I have become well acquainted with the Blogosphere. And more specifically, the Christian corner of it. I read mostly blogs of the discussion type: ie blogs that aren't of a personal update nature, but rather want to discuss things pertaining to the universal Christian walk or things going on in Christendom. Most of the blogs I read are of the Reformed circle, but not all. And I do read some blogs that are designed more of an update variety. (Carrie, if you're reading this-blog more! :) )

On the more discussion bent blogs which actually get traffic (so, mine isn't factored into this) there seem to be a few basic categories of posting.
1. Joel Osteen
2. Rick Warren and PDL
3. The Emergent Church movement
4. Current controversial topic "X"
5. What our role should be in the church and home
6. Personal experiences of growth
7. Book reviews to help ones walk
8. Some post of encouragement

It struck me the other day while discussing a blog post with my husband that those last 5 topics are posted on a fair bit but don't generate a lot of discussion amongst the saints in the internet. However, you post something on topics 1-3 or some other thing which can really be debated and a highly visited site could get 100 comments. Why is that? Why do we want to talk more about the evils of PDL or if yoga is ok to have at a church retreat than we want to talk about how to be a benefit to the body and share in what somebody is being taught?

When we get together for face to face Christian fellowship I think all of the topics listed up there are often covered. But I haven't noticed the vast unbalance like is in the Christian blogosphere. I'm not suggesting that addressing the topic of Lakewood is a bad idea, not a bad idea at all. In fact, it seems like a very good thing to discuss. I just don't quite get why we don't go at the core of the Christian life with the same gusto.

Well, then again, maybe I do....after all debating is fun. And it is fun to be right. And in topics 5-8 there really isn't anything to debate, it just is what it is. Many don't take as much pleasure in a bunch of people sitting around agreeing with each other. But what is really of more profit to us? To all debate Osteen or Warren till we're blue in the face or to exhort one another to serve the saints, love your spouse, care for your children, know God. If someone you know wants to base their ministry around "your best life know" it may very well be time for a good hard discussion. But for the most part we all just need to work on loving the Lord our God with all our heart and soul and mind and to love our neighbor as ourself.

So what's the solution? Well, I think the problem lies in the commenters, not the blogs for the most part so the solution starts there. Let those whose blogs you read know the impact that their encouraging post had on you (thanks Bill and Shannon!!!) and even share a story about how it helped or how it was similar to something you went through last summer. Ask questions when things are unclear. Ask for additional info if there seems to be something missing. When someone reviews a book, add your thoughts if you read it and maybe other similar books that could be of use. If no one comments on the more mundane posts I think bloggers are more inclined to post on the more controversial topics, so comment on the good stuff as well as the other. Also, blog owners could shut down comments after the first 50 have said nothing new and are just serving as a means to get the body mad at each other, just a thought. Things for myself to remember if I ever get a real blog. It may happen someday.

Love to all my readers (what....4 of you?) and to all the blogs I read. It is amazing this global online Christian community we all have the opportunity to get to know. Let's use it for the building up of the body and exhorting each other towards Godliness.
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Aug. 6th, 2005 @ 10:36 am Joy and Thanksgiving
So, the follow up post to what I posted last week. I promised reflections about the nature of joy and thankfulness, so here they are.

I don't think joy is simply an emotion any more than love is simply an emotion, but rather a fruit of the spirit. Gal 5:22 As such I don't think it is an option for Christians. It seems to me that the Bible is pretty clear that if we are Christ's then we have the spirit and if we have the spirit we have the fruit of the spirit. That to act in a way which is contrary to the fruit of the spirit seems to be sin. That we are either living in the spirit or living in the flesh and that for a Christian to be living in the flesh is sin. So I don't think we can afford to view joy in all things and thankfulness for all things as simply perks of the deeper walk club. That somehow those things don't apply to us because we're having a bad day or week or that it is only the nuns who can have a smile on their face all the time and actually mean it. The Bible has much to say on the matter of joy, and often the context is that of joy amidst sorrow or persecution or repentance.

Psalm 32:11
Psalm 51:8
Acts 13:52
Rom 14:17
Phil 3:1
Phil 4:4
Col 1:24
Thes 5:16
1Pet 4:13

As well as much to say on the nature of giving thanks.
Psalm 105:1
Psalm 106:1
Psalm 107"1
Eph 5:20
Col 3:17
Thes 5:18

Not to say that there isn't a time for Godly sorrow and mourning. But just that Godly sorrow doesn't vanquish Godly joy. That there are things which make God sorrowful as well as that of His people, but it won't destroy the work of the Spirit in us.
Rom 12:15
2Cor 7:9

I've read many good things written on the subject of joy and thankfulness. I know the most recent Piper book on the subject come highly recommended (although I haven't read it) and Doug Wilson has one called "Joy at the End of the Tether" (it's a study in Ecclesiastes) that my husband recommends. However, the thing I've read that had the biggest impact on me was a little pamphlet entitled "How to be Free from Bitterness" by Jim Wilson. The basic premise is that joy is a natural outpouring of a Christian and what gets in the way most often of our joy is sin. And one of the most rampant, cancer like sins in the body is unconfessed bitterness. Now, I don't want to get into that whole subject in this post, but put forth that although joy is what we should have sin gets in the way of that joy. So one of the first things to look at if you aren't joyful is unconfessed sin. It could be simply not giving thanks for the situation and thus a bad attitude about it has crept in and stolen your joy. But whatever it is, I believe the Bible is very clear that we are to immediately confess sin, that we are to be joyful, and we are to give thanks for all things.

Now, I shared in the previous post on what I went through in coming to a realization of the relation of this physical life to our relationship with God. I still remember being at a Bible study one time when I was really sick. It had been one of the first times I had been out of the house in weeks and it was great to see other people. I really hadn't expected to have my world changed. The leader prayed for me at the end of the study. Of course he prayed that I might be strengthened and healed and the my husband would be able to do all that was needed to pick up the slack, but the first thing out of his mouth was "Lord, we thank you for this." It wasn't a secret hidden sermon in prayer or anything like that, but just the natural outpouring of a heart that loved God and understood what He asked of us. My initial response in my head was "who is he to be thanking God, he doesn't have to live through this, he doesn't know what is it like" but then it hit me like a ton of bricks. He was doing what I should have been doing all along. I needed to be thankful to God in all things-not just the things I desired. It didn't matter one iota that the man wasn't sick, he knew what was asked of us and did it. And I will never, ever forget it.

While I am thankful that I can share a difficult experience from my life where God taught me many things, I want to stress that I don't think it is required to teach truth. You can become a Christian at age four, follow God joyfully all your life, have great health, a good marriage, happy kids, a roof over your head and food on the table in abundance and still share truth. That's definitely something I took away from the Bible study that night. That I don't need someone who is in my exact position of life and going through the exact same things I am to speak truth into it. If anything, a fresh outside perspective can be a blessed thing.

So in conclusion: Rejoice in the Lord always, again I say rejoice. Give thanks to God in all things, for all things. Confess your sin to God and one another that you might be healed. Speaking the truth in love, encourage each other towards righteousness. In the name of Christ, Amen.
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Jul. 27th, 2005 @ 10:08 am The Temperol
This is a journal entry from April 8, 2002. At the time I had been married for about 9 months. It had been a hard nine months. I had been very sick since about a month after we got married, had had to drop out of school, couldn't take care of the house, and most days could barely sit up without assistance. But God is faithful. He teaches us things even when we don't think we should be required to learn anything at the moment. So here is my entry. I plan to follow it up with some post reflection on the subject as well as some Bible verses.
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I've been really struggling the past few weeks with being really depressed. Mainly due to the fact that I have been in a lot of pain and on a lot of drugs and unable to drive myself anywhere and often unable to really do what I need to around the house. I was getting down, and crying all the time and just getting so discouraged. And I wasn't responding right at all. I was losing sight of striving to be thankful for this and not praying and not being in the word. I'm still struggling with that actually, but that is another entry.

But I was reading the book "Under the Mercy" (which I wouldn't really recommend, but it had some good aspects about it) and he brought up the point that all things are temporary.

But let me go back. As Christians we often say and hear "and this too shall pass" It could really be called a Christian cliche. But until recently I didn't realize what the truth of that statement really was. When we say it, what we usually mean is that the current state of trial and tribulation will be over before we know it and we'll look back on it and realize it wasn't so bad afterall. And sometimes that is true. But the real truth is that all of this will pass. The illness, the financial troubles, the relationship problems, the happy lazy Saturdays, the good time with your spouse, the money, the possesions, the beating of your heart. When we tell a fellow Christian that "this too shall pass" we are right but it must never mean "you will be delivered of this before you taste death" for that isn't always the truth. Everything on this earth, everything we work so hard to scheive, every trial will all end- all of it is temporary against the backdrop of eternity.

And that is what put things in perspective for me. I was really beginning to feel like I couldn't go on living like this. Not that I was hoping for death, but that if the situation didn't changes that I would simply succumb to the depression. But God is showing me that I won't go on living like this-not in eternity. And ultimately that's what really counts. To live is Christ and to die is gain. To quote Caedoms Call "this world has nothing for me and this world has everything. All that I could want and nothing that I need" I love my husband, our home, our family, the church, the work God has given me to do-all of it. But is truly all that matters. And if I am very ill for the rest of my time here on earth it will pass. Pass into something that is beyond my comprehension.
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Jul. 7th, 2005 @ 09:53 am The Tongue- A Little Member
I have been given a lot of thought lately to our freedom in Christ and how it relates to our speech. There was once a time in the church (it doesn't seem that long ago) where cursing or vulgar speech wasn't heard or if it was it was corrected. I'm not speaking of taking the Lord's name in vain, but rather those words which we use to add emphasis that have for whatever reason been deemed explicit. Of course it hasn't been that long ago that dancing, movies, cards, and women in pants were all taboo as well. Was this previous way of viewing speech simply legalism and unnecessary to our faith and pursuit of righteousness? Or was it a very practical way to make our speech pleasing in the sight of God (Ps. 19:14) and uplifting to those around us? Perhaps a way to set ourselves apart from the average drunken sailor on leave?

Now, one thing that certainly should be considered is the fact that curse words are different between cultures. For example, America and England have a different list of words that are considered explicit. But no matter what the words are, we do know their intent. It may be ridiculous that a word that was once used to define a female dog is now a way to insult someone, but it doesn't change the fact that it is insulting. It is probably equally ridiculous that a concept such as damnation to Hell is thrown around as commonly as "good morning". At any rate, I'm not sure it ends the discussion to simply say well, it isn't swearing (ie:taking the Lords name in vain) therefore not sin, therefore a part of our freedom in Christ just as much as enjoying a good beer is.

As I started writing I must say my thoughts were a little unfocused, still are, but I am starting to lean more towards the conclusion that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. I don't know that there is any way to separate explicit words from their more vulgar secular intents. Most often they are used to either insult or express man's anger, two things that a Christian should never do. After all do we say "Oh Sh--" or "Da--" when our child takes their first step or puts their faith in God, or do we use it when we hit our thumb with the hammer? I'm not putting forth some dogmatic conclusion that these words shouldn't be used (except perhaps in some rather obvious situations). I do have to say that I use some of them on occasion as do people whom I respect and find to be wise and Godly, people who I would go to for council. But it does seem that such speech, partly due to our culture, doesn't fit in with the meditation of whatever is true, noble, right, pure, lovely, admirable, or praiseworthy (Phil. 4:8).

And on to another set of words. Those which when we capitalize we are referring to our Creator and when we have lower case we use in phrases similar to the ones discussed in the previous paragraph. Before getting into reading blogs and moving to the new city I hadn't heard professing Christians use such phrases. I rather took it for granted that one didn't need to be using the name of Christ or one of the given names of God for it to be taking the Lord's name in vain,to be taking something flippantly which should never be taken flippantly. It seemed rather cut and dry to me. After all, we begin our petitions before our Father with these words it just seems so incongruous to use them for exclamation or emphasis.

However, it doesn't seem that this view is as wide held as I thought it was. Honestly, I'm not entirely sure what to do with that. On one hand "god" is used to refer to pagan gods or those things which we set up as false gods. It isn't a word which always refers to Y-w-h. And Lord is something which is used to apply to people even in the Bible. So is Messiah for that matter. Is it only wrong for Christians to use such names that specifically apply to our creator or savior as curse words, or is any generic deity term inappropriate and disrespectful? I tend to lean towards it all being wrong. Not grey, but wrong. Mainly because it is the same titles which we use to address Y-w-h as well as Christ and I don't think that they should be cheapened with common vulgar use.

I know these thoughts could very easily get me labeled as some sort of legalist, denying the freedom we have in Christ. But it just seems to me that this speech really has no redeeming value for Christians. I don't think that it does anything to bring us closer to God, to edify our brothers or to be perfect as our father in heaven is perfect. Perhaps a case could be made for the witness factor of it, and I'd be open to consider that, but it does seem a bit shaky ground.

I shall leave you with these references:

James 3:1-12
Eph. 4:29-32
Phil 4:4-9
Ps. 19:14
Matt. 12:31-37
Matt. 5: 21-22

Try this online Bible resource for easy reference as well as phrase look up. You'll have access to multiple translations as well as the original language and commentaries.
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Jul. 4th, 2005 @ 12:29 pm CS Lewis and the benefit of writing
Recently a contest was held here. The general premise was to find 6 women who were of an intellectual bent, preferably a CS Lewis like bent, who wanted to collaborate on a team blog. Thirty one women entered and then a panel of 10 judges chose the winners. I considered entering, but in the end decided that I didn't want to commit to a group blog. And although I still almost entered just for the fun of it, I decided against that as well. It did however get me thinking about the nature of using our God given intellects to pursue the things of God. And more specifically the practice of putting these pursuits down in writing. The question becomes, why is it worth the effort to put those things we are taught by God down where others can read it?

Reading an author like Lewis it seems pretty obvious. After all, he is an amazing writer with the ability to convey truth simply and beautifully. He can compose an entire character in one sentence and change your world in one little book. The answer to the question seems to be then, you write what you learn for the benefit of others. It is for the encouragement of those around you and the lifting up of the saints. However I don't think that is all of it. Now, I obviously didn't know Lewis personally. My mother wasn't even alive when he was. But I have read his writing and others who have written about him, and what stands out to me is that he lived what he wrote. He wasn't simply writing out principles that he wanted his neighbor to live by. Or even writing things out to point people to when they were getting it wrong. He was writing what he was living. Now, I could make some safe assumptions based on history and human nature and say there were probably days that were more filled with joy than the others. There were probably times that he echoed St. Paul's cry of "what I want to do I don't do, and what I do do I don't want to do." But I don't think that changes that overall he talked the talk and walked the walk.

And that I think is the chief benefit to writing down what we have learned. When we take the effort to write out the truth that has been conveyed to us first it sinks deeper into us. It requires a greater understanding of a subject in order to explain the subject. (For example, I understand a fair bit of what my scientist husband talks about concerning work. When he says it, it makes sense. But I couldn't teach it to you to save my life) So when Lewis writes about the nature of love and how that is reflected in the Christians life to those around them it requires a true understand and relationship with the nature of love in his own life. And this greater understanding I believe leads to a greater living out of the principle in your own life. The second part of having this greater understanding and putting it in writing in some public forum is that others then know you have that knowledge. They know that you know what it is you are suppose to be doing. When you don't do it, they can call you on it with confidence because you have already professed publicly "yes this is what I am to do".

Now, honestly that is a bit uncomfortable to write. Because I can go back through my old entries here and read the titles and get this sinking feeling in my stomach because I know that I haven't been doing well in that area lately. And further more, there is sometimes a hesitation to put something down because I know if I attempt to live like I don't know that truth I will get called on it. But this is all the more reason to write. If I speak disrespectfully to my husband I don't want it to simply slide by. If my priorities around the home get mixed up I want it brought to my attention. And I desire the sort of sorrow that comes from re-reading old posts and being convicted that I am not living like I should for Godly sorrow leads to repentance and repentance to salvation which brings no regret.

So, read my posts. See how it says I know I'm suppose to be living. If I'm not, say something. And go, write posts of your own and live that way. And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness love. For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Jun. 23rd, 2005 @ 11:48 am Children in Worship

Most people who have talked to me any length of time know my general thoughts on children in worship. Namely, that they should be there. And preferably participating. And even more preferably, not looked on as an inconvenience or annoyance by those around them when they inevitably make noise. I know many people who also share this view and have this goal for their churches and their families. It is a great and wonderful thing to be in the company of the saints praising God with your family and other families around you.  Until recently my reasons for this view point were really rather narrow. Mostly based on personal preference and a desired culture to be created in our family. However, I recently listened to a sermon that brought up something else which I think is wonderful to consider when taking on the subject of children in worship. You can listen to the sermon here. I should say though I haven't listened to much beyond the introduction and the whole sermon isn't about children in worship, but about marriage. 

 The pastor points out (while addressing the rather larger under age 8 contingent in the church) that in Ephesians Paul addresses children and what their roles in the christian community are.  He addresses them because he expects them to be present.  They were there, and expected to be there, at the gathering of the church at Ephesus.  Of course there are things in the book of Ephesians that are above the understanding of children, but these things are still profitable for them to hear.  And they especially need to hear the things which are directed at them.   

  The church isn't just about one age group.  Any age group, whether it be birth to five years, six to eighteen, twenty to forty, forty to sixty, or sixty to the grave.  The church is about just that-the church.  Most of the instruction will naturally be geared towards those who are already Christians and more mature Christians at that, but children are just as much a part of things as the rest of us.  Which means encouraging and taking great joy at their presence, even when it means you miss a word or two of the sermon.   

 

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Jun. 21st, 2005 @ 09:15 am Gifting vs. Requirement
Unlike many of my musings prior to this, I have no conclusion to the subject I am putting forward. I have a leaning, but no solid foundation from which to prove it. So these are simply the thoughts bouncing around in my head at the moment trying to come to some sort of conclusion.

There are many things that are a part of the Christian life that are required of us. These are not things which we have to be specifically called to or have some sort of gifting for. Like love for example. We don't need an individual calling or gifting to know that we are to be loving towards our brothers in Christ, to be loving towards those in need of God, and to love the Lord our God with all of our heart, soul, and mind. We can know for certain that our orders to love aren't based on anything within us. And on the flip side of that, there are things which are spoken of as individual gifts. Speaking in tongues for example. Speaking in tongues we are told is something to be desired and is a good gift, but it isn't required of us. We are not in any sort of sin because we aren't speaking in tongues.

Now, what about things that aren't as clear as that? I'm quite certain there are different examples of this, but the one that has been on my mind lately is mothers staying home with their children instead of having a career outside the home. I've already explained in this journal that I believe in being a housewife, but there is a huge portion of your life that will be spent taking care of children if you are a housewife. What brought this to the forefront of my mind was reading a blog (a really great one btw) where the comment was made by the author that she wasn't planning on staying home full time with her children because it wasn't where her gifting was. Now on one hand I have heard this sort of idea many times before. The idea of being called to stay at home, where the calling is spoken of as an individual thing. I've also heard the calling to be at home spoken of as a broader calling to all Christian women. I'm not sure where I fall. And what is far more important, I'm not sure where the truth is.

Some of this is a moot point to my personal application. I am a housewife, I am staying home to raise my children rather than paying someone else to do it for (or having a family member do it). I will probably homeschool our children at least for the first few grades, ensuring that they have the foundation that we desire for them. These are all things which I consider a great, great good and feel very privileged to be able to do. However, is this good a requirement? Or is it just a good blessing from God? Do we by making this a requirement teach the traditions of man as the precepts of God? The chief reason this concerns my personal life is I need to know what to teach my daughters. I need to know if this life I've chosen is something I need to prepare my daughters for as something that is required of them or to simply encourage them towards it as something which is very very good. Also, I'm suppose to be encouraging my Christian sisters towards righteousness and especially instructing those who are not yet at the same stage of life that I am. So what is the instruction? Is it simply that choosing home is a blessing from God and a blessing to you and your family? Or is it that as a Christian woman she (whoever the she is) is called to be home? To be honest, I have no idea.

Our Biblical examples of wives and mothers show us women who are industrious. They provide for their families in many ways, not just through housework and cooking. But they were most definitely at home. They were home minded. But unlike love, I don't necessarily see the implicit command. Once again, I am just not sure.

So, that's where I am at on this matter. If my thoughts solidify any more, I shall post an addendum. All other's thoughts are appreciated.
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